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A weekly clash of views over the latest AI news

Approachable doomer Frank Prendergast and techno-overoptimist Justin Collery argue about what matters in AI, what’s hype, and what any of it actually means.

The AI Argument hosts: Frank Prendergast on the left and Justin Collery on the right.

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EP 122

17 October 2026

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Heavy Topics,Discussed Lightly.

  • Cybersecurity
  • AI agents
  • AI consciousness
  • Jobs and work
  • Misinformation
  • Autonomous weapons
  • Energy use
  • Robots
  • Privacy
  • AI regulation
  • Healthcare
  • Bias
  • Education
  • AGI
  • Copyright
  • Creative livelihoods
  • Surveillance
  • Deepfakes
  • AI safety
  • Big Tech power

MEET THE HOSTS

The approachable doomer.

Frank Prendergast

Portrait of Frank Prendergast

“I’m asking ChatGPT, ‘How do you mix cement?’ to build my bunker. It’ll be grand.”

Taking a cautious view of AI risks and societal impact.

The techno-overoptimist.

Justin Collery

Portrait of Justin Collery

“The AI has broken out of its box and I don’t think it’s a big deal. I think it’s absolutely fine.”

Excited by rapid AI progress and its potential benefits.

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CAN YOU KEEP AI ALIGNED?

The AI Argument: The Game

The AI Argument Game artwork, with Frank holding regulation documents and Justin wielding a hammer beside an AI containment chamber.

Frank regulates AI. Justin whacks problems as they arise. Can they keep AI aligned long enough to stop it escaping containment?

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Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery arguing across a bold yellow VS graphic, contrasting Frank’s cautious view with Justin’s enthusiasm.

ABOUT THE SHOW

Smart, funny debates about the future of AI

The AI Argument is a weekly podcast for people who are excited by AI, concerned about where it is heading, and unconvinced by anyone claiming to have all the answers. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery argue over the latest AI news with strong opinions, open disagreement and a healthy disregard for tidy conclusions.

AI is already changing how we work, create and communicate. Each week, the show digs into the stories driving that change and tries to find some sense between Frank’s doomerism and Justin’s enthusiasm, all with a good pinch of humour.

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